Pakistan begins making first Islamic fighter jet

last SG · 2006-05-22T22:48:27+00:00

Thread that is turning into a war of words to be closed.

38 SG

The Arabic money sponsored, China developed, and Pakistan would-be manufactured fighter jet, JF-17 is finished development stage merely after 3 years when its 1st prototype made a successfully maiden flight in 2003.

Pakistan begins making first Islamic fighter jet

DUBAI: Pakistan has started indigenous production of JF-17 Thunder billed as the Islamic worlds first fighter jet which will be inducted into the Pakistan Air Force by December, 2006. We are ready to export the aircraft to friendly countries, especially the Arab states, disclosed Air Marshal Aurangzeb Khan, Chairman of Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) Board, in an interview with Khaleej Times, at the conclusion of the Dubai 2005 Air Show. He said that the fighter jet, JF-17 Thunder, was expected to be on static display and also take part in aerobatics at the Dubai 2007 Air Show. The manufacturing of all-weather JF-17 Thunder, a multi-role and light weight fighter aircraft, marks a significant milestone towards technological advancement by the PAC, Khan said. This initiative by an under-developed country like Pakistan needs to be encouraged so that we are able to help our friends, he added. He said that the PAC has co-ventured with CATIC of China on the development and production of the JF-17 Thunder whose prototype is flying. At the PAC in Kamra, Pakistan, we are doing 58 per cent of the airframe and majority of the avionics in addition to stuffing, final assembling and flight testing, Khan said.

Based on US assessment, The JF17 is considered the equal to earlier versions of the F16, but only 80 percent as effective as more recent F16 models at a low cost of 20 million USD maximum.

Source: http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20060501.aspx

The JF17 figures a JSF-style engine inlets considered the world 1st such inlet in service( F35 yet to formally enter service).

Source: http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/2006/05/08/Navigation/177/206499/Pictures+China's+Chengdu+FC-1+fighter+performs+first+flight+with+JSF-style+engine.html

Changes to Chinas Chengdu FC-1 lightweight fighter are clearly visible in recently released photographs (pictured below) of the redesigned fourth prototypes first flight on 28 April. Joint Strike Fighter (JSF)-style diverterless engine inlets lead the design revisions.

In addition to redesigned intakes, the fourth prototype has larger wing leading-edge root extensions, longer ventral strakes either side of the aft fuselage, and a taller, less swept fin. The design changes were made after problems surfaced during testing of the first three prototypes. The FC-1 first flew in August 2003.

The redesigned inlets closely resemble those of the Lockheed Martin F-35 JSF. In place of the conventional ramp of the original two-dimensional intake, the new design features a hump to aerodynamically divert turbulent boundary-layer airflow away from the engine inlet. Lockheed has said its design is more stealthy than conventional inlets.

What will be the impact should the 1st such Muslim made fighter jet into the world market after china fully TOT the JF-17 ( FC-1 coded by Chinese to Pakistan?

38 SG

Get the info from Chinese & Pakistani source, the new JF17 will have:

1. 3 MFD
2. Advanced HUD (Raw and processed Information)
3. Hotas Control
4. Digital and Fully Integrated Avionics
5. Two Databus with two computers supporting them
6. Digital Map and 3D Digital Map comming soon
7. A Decent Radar (75+ detecting range for a 3 sq. meter aircraft)
8. Standard EW equipement
9. IFF
10. IR and UV Missile warning up to 20+km away
11. IR Laser anti-missile system
12. Anti-missile guidance system through the "focused interference system"
13. Datalink to ground control and Awacs
14. Maintiance on a Laptop
15. Compatible with western/russian/chinese munitions including PGMs

Impressive for a plane with a price tag below 20 million USD

The Glass C-ock-pit of the JF17

More" stealthy" and effective inlet

arjun SG

first Islamic fighter jet

Hey, what are the characteristics of an Islamic fighter jet.
I can tell you that there is no Christian fighter jets in the world (becoz Vatican is not interested in making planes). There are other fighter planes like the Secular ones that the U.S makes. Even the F-22 raptor is a secular one. Then we saw the communist fighters like the Chinese one. Is this fighter half communist and half Islamic or it is fully Islamic. Did this fighter follow the rules of the Quran or it acts like a kaffir in the air showing its dirty butt towards Mecca while flying?

the Bear SG

i thought the Japanese already built one in WWII and it was called the OKA? Twisted Evil

okay okay.. sorry.. i had to do it

Shotgun SG

Come to think of it, i haven’t heard of an Hindo, Bhuddist or any other religious jets be4. Why only Islam got jet?

laurence82 SG

Urm, i was afraid that the word 'Islamic' might be due to the 'jihad' against infidels, thus an 'Islamic' fighter jet would be perceived as a Allah's weapon against the Zionists and the Great Satan.

Obersturmfuhrer SG

So basically everyday the planes would have to be turned towards a certain direction at certain times of the day? Laughing

Seriously, that "I" word has been used too liberally by people who cannot justify the moronic nature of their actions.

tankee1981 SG

Apart from the some what inappropriate 'Islamic fighter jet' term, i think the FC-1 is quite a success. Firstly, developing nations now have an alternative source of fighter jets which is definitely much cheaper. Secondly, though we can't tell the actual performance of this aircraft for sure at the moment but it certainly does looks quite good on paper for that price. But i think the J-10's future looks even more promising. Very Happy

38 SG

But Gents, u cant deny its a smart tactics to label the plane as I for marketing purpose, although the word itself is rather sensitive in todays situation.

1st, some development fund for the fighter is from Arabic fund long time supporting Pakistan, then, if PAF set to buy at least 150 such fighters initially, I think such funding will play a substantial role as well.

2nd, when Pakistan starts manufacturing the JF17, it will not only equip its own airforce with the fighter, but also export such planes to fellow Muslim brotherhoods countries like Morocco, Bangladeshi, Egypt, even Malaysia, Remember, when the Pakistani PM visited KL last July, he did present the JF17 to his Malaysian counterpart. So the word Islamic though sensitive, but rather accurate and clear to track how the JF-17 being marketed after it developed successfully.

We may leave aside the part of I and concentrate more on the JF-17s spec and how it could be marketed. Wink Embarassed Very Happy

Texcoco II SG

agree Cool

Texcoco II SG

double post

arjun SG

2nd, when Pakistan starts manufacturing the JF17, it will not only equip its own airforce with the fighter, but also export such planes to fellow Muslim brotherhoods countries like Morocco, Bangladeshi, Egypt, even Malaysia,

You mean like the halal meat, this is a halal fighter plane for the muslims.

The Muslim brotherhood seems limited in number why? Where is Saudi, UAE and Afghanistan etc. Oh they are interested with the Kaffir fighters like the F-16's.

SingaporeMacross SG

That'll make it easier for our NATO commando teams to spot and destroy..

Black Aces SG

Promotion ad for the FC-1?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759425224735284123

In the same website, there is one titled 'Awesome Animated JF17/FC1', don't want to attach it here as I felt it is pretty provocative....take a look at that one if you're wondering what I mean.

coolant SG

What impressed me is how the pan-Islamic funding helps the Chinese develop such impressive avionics and aerodynamic structures. We can assure therell follow-on models of JF-17 when its designer masters further the relevant technologies. And maybe such funding will continually play a role in such developments.

Shotgun SG

This JF-17/FC-1 really reminds me of one of the best planes never built. The F-20.

Hmm some parts of the music video a bit fishy. Looks like a static setup with a smoke machine blowing past the cockpit. Ha ha.

arjun SG

See how the Pakistanis are writing and taking all the credit for the hard work done by the Chinese engineers.

The Dawn Press Service
Karachi

The pictures of the Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal, Tanveer Mehmud Ahmed, standing next to the latest generation fighter JF-17 being co-developed by China and Pakistan, has made every Pakistani proud. But the photo-op is only the tip of the iceberg. During an exclusive interview with the Air Chief, the Dawn has learnt that there are complexities that are beyond the comprehension of the enlightened common man and it takes the genius of people like the Air Chief to solve these issues in order to maintain the cutting-edge of the PAF.

According to the the Air Chief, it all started when the Air Chief decided to sit inside the cockpit of the JF-17 a simple task no doubt our readers will agree. But I soon realized that canopy would not close the issue being that the cockpit was designed for a 5 chinaman pilot Laughing {This is their description of a Chinese and these Pakistanis love comparison, earlier they compared Indians and said that One Pakistani= 3 Indians. After the war they swallowed it}whereas PAF pilots our strapping Punjabi lads average 510, my own height being 511. He immediately rushed to the design bureau and a brainstorming session was held with the design engineers. A computer-modelled geometric analysis revealed the root cause: there is 6 of clearance between the chinamans head and the bottom of the canopy. That left 4 short for the Pakistani pilot.

2 was obtained by removing the seat cushion bottom - this was suggested by the The Air Chief himself, no less! The Air Chief who started his career flying Tiger Moths in WWII, is a strong believer of core flying principles i.e a pilot should know how to fly by the seat of his pants. Laughing {Sometimes they even fly without pants} The Air Chief claims proudly that this measure will radically improve the man-machine interface. Infact this will now be used as a pilot program to test if seat cushions should be removed on all other fighters of the PAF as well.

For the balance 2, one of the bright Chinese design engineers who had spent time at the Toshiba wafer labs in Tokyo, came up with the idea of adopting pushers to force the canopy closed as soon as the pilot sits in the seat, similar to the pushers in the Tokyo subway system who push passengers into subway cars in rush hour. The Air Chief immediately agreed to the idea rather than going back to the drawing board to redesign the airframe that would take about 10 years. The Chinese agreed to reinforce the canopy locks to prevent accidental opening during mid-flight, due to head pressure from the inside.{Take note}

The Chinese also agreed to supply additional ladders free of cost for the starboard side for the pushers to climb and be ready to push the pilots in. Other benefits were gained as well: because the pilot now sits in a pressurized zone between the canopy and the seat, there is no need for a safety-belt, thus improving scramble time. Also, the pilots head is now naturally angled at 60 deg declination thus ensuring he has a direct line of sight to the instrument panel, pre-empting critics who said that the instrument panel was not well laid out.

Dear readers, our proud country is blessed to have people of this caliber{The Chinese who provided the solution} or the dumbass airchief . Laughing

duotiga83 SG

are we onto the area of discrimating of racism? Rolling Eyes pls knw your limits...

arjun SG

are we onto the area of discrimating of racism? Rolling Eyes pls knw your limits... Rolling Eyes

To whom?

CenturionMBT SG

To you. STFU about our muslim compatriots if you want to continue posting.